June 7, 2013 Hearing (Day 2 of Frye Hearing)

Continuing from the June 6th Hearing




https://diwataman.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/june-6th-2013-hearing-george-zimmerman/

Frye hearing stuff.

Don’t know if anything else is going to be heard today

4) STATE’S MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY

5) DEFENDANT’S MOTION IN LIMINE REGARDING THE USE OF CERTAIN INFLAMMATORY TERMS

6) DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO PROHIBIT SPECTATORS FROM WEARING ITEMS THAT DEPICT SUPPORT

7) DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO EXTEND CURFEW

8) JOINT STIPULATION AS TO EXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY AT FRYE HEARING

Possible 9th) Move for stay, motion for continuance, motion to remove Nelson? Nelson goes straight to sentencing?

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103 thoughts on “June 7, 2013 Hearing (Day 2 of Frye Hearing)

    • Yeah, the judge will conclude that the FBI guy was trying to pull the wool over her eyes by speaking with a Chinese accent. This guy is clearly on the up and up.

  1. Trayvonites unhappy Owen says “Punks” instead of “Coons”

    State trying to say just because he got that right then it must follow his opinion on the screams is right, hint: logic is not their strong suit, lol

      • The state started questioning Owen on being contacted by defense then they went to sidebar, when they came back state never brought it up again so I figured it was about that.

  2. Owen claims he identified 8 actual words of “Help” and such which is in clear conflict with the state’s other guy saying “awe” “ola” or whatever was in that report, lol.

  3. Freudian slip from judge, almost calls methodology “mythology”, she’s right, Owen is the stuff of mythology.

    Judge telling O’Mara to move forward without Owens transcript

  4. D-Man,

    The methodology may be acceptable, if there is any science that can be used to exclude samples compared. Owens has that human factor of listening, so I’m not sure what that does to the acceptability of his process.

    The majority of problems brought up here by West – which I say without knowing how acceptable the exact methodology is – seems to relate more to the data tested, the qualifications of the man conducting the testing (and listening!), and the equipment used to conduct the test.

    That said, FWIW, leaves me thinking Nelson will accept the methodology. What else is she required to accept to approve of this expert?

    TIA

  5. ADD: That leaves it up to the jury to decide if the samples used and any variations from some standards (whatever they are!) plugged in are to be used to show Owen’s results can be used to help determine who was screaming (ignoring that ithe tests are only to exclude).

  6. I trust you have a much better understanding of sound than I do. Is there a data base used to determine the variability in sounds, somehow used to determine probability of exclusion?

    • I have no idea what’s in the software Owen used. The linguists and the audio people have long worked together and some are one in the same. Owen has no education in linguistics, he’s a history major. I’m sure “they” have lots of databases of such nature.

  7. One more to review from Dr. French, state is not worried about it so that’s done, essentially 4) STATE’S MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY denied.

    Reich is coming up now by phone

    • That is one if the very few things the traybots and zimbots agree on. Well, that and the use of “bots” as an insult.

    • Reich has no concept of science, and how valid results are obtained using scientific methodology. Duplication is the key. Can anyone duplicate his process? Real science goes through a lot of steps to ensure a valid result:

    • ^^^^^^^^^^should have read as follows:

      Reich has $67,500 owed to him by the prosecution so far (after the $7500 retainer that he blew threw months and months ago)

    • You don’t need to be biased to understand that. I can barely even be fair to these guys if I wanted to, they just simply should never be testifying in criminal trials, EVER!

      The stark contrast with these two and the FBI super audio guy is so blindingly apparent.

  8. I don’t know why they wasted so much time with this. We all know she’s going to deny it. As long as a retard can employ some basic methods then it’s in.

    • +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000! Unfreakinbelievable!

      HE NEVER LIED ABOUT THE PASSPORT, Flappy! WTF!

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