I started all the videos at 6:48:10, 6:30:10 in the original timestamps accounting for the 18 minute discrepancy. I added George’s call, part of W11’s call and W18’s call with some radio transmissions edited in and a few descriptions from the Event Report. The last little bit of radio transmission after request to transport George is not timed correctly as it’s from the edited version so pay no mind there, I just let it run a bit to fill the end.
As far as I can tell the 18 minute discrepancy/adjustment is accurate.
Edit: Now I am rethinking this it seems the main contention is what W3 sees that she says in her 911 call and where she sees it. I think what is being claimed is that the vehicle at 31:00 is Smiths car driving down Twin Trees and that is what W3 is supposed to be seeing.
7:16:41 W3 Calls
7:17:46 I see a policeman now
Listening to her interview she says had her upstairs windows open, was in one of her offices and heard someone screaming for help. She peeked out the window, saw someone on top of someone, called 911 but was concerned she would be heard so she went into the other office to talk to 911. She said she stayed in her office the entire time of the 911 call. She said she can look out the window upstairs and see police arrive and that once they were there she peeked out the blinds again. She said she stayed in the other rooms until the police were there.
Unfortunately she doesn’t describe where she sees the police arriving or what she’s exactly seeing. I think we can all agree she’s looking out her window that faces West but it’s not certain what she can see from there. Can she see the front gate? Can she see Retreat View Circle or at least parts of it through the spaces in the buildings? The question seems to come down to did she see a police car drive through the front gate, make a left and go down Retreat View Circle? Or did she see a police car arrive through the front gate, go straight past the clubhouse, and make the natural left that goes down Twin Trees? Did she see the actual police car though? We don’t know because she never explicitly states what she sees other than their arrival. Perhaps she looked out the window and merely saw police lights flashing off buildings, windows and cars and since she was looking out her front window assumed the police were in front and that is why she was telling the dispatcher that it’s not in front but in back.
Smith’s report is not much help either. All he basically says in his report is that he arrived at 2821 Retreat View Circle, canvassed the area, walked between the buildings and found George. From the report we don’t know for sure what entrance he came in or what street(s) he took when he entered. We also don’t know what buildings he walked in between.
However in his dispatch he tells Raimondo(SO202 Car Radio) across from Bentley Elementary, which is across the street from the North entrance and to turn left when he comes in. But Raimondo did ask at one point where Smith’s car is which would have been on RVC at that point.
Ayala(S1312 Car Radio) was the third to arrive.
Going off of the Event Report it says that S2711(I believe Smith’s car radio ID) ARV(Arrived) at 7:17:40. That would be consistent in timing with W3’s time on her Event Report; 7:16:41 W3 Calls, 7:17:46 I see a policeman now.
If I place her call on my video starting it at her Event Report time, she makes her remark at 29:36.
I tried to get at least some idea of what W3 could see from her view but it’s really a futile effort without actually being in the same room. I’m wondering if she can see the front gate from her window but even if not it at least seems likely she can see through the breaks in the buildings, both of these give her a potential view of Retreat View Circle where she may have seen police arrive.
If we are to say the vehicle at 31:00 of my video is Smiths patrol car then where ought we place W3’s statement?
I decided to place her statement about police at 31:06 of the video. That would mean her call came in at 30:01(7:18:11 of my video). 7:18:11 – 7:16:41 = 1 minute and 30 seconds. So if this were the case then the 18 minute discrepancy is actually 16 minutes and 30 seconds, give or take a few seconds depending on where one places her statement. So 6:30 on the original timestamp would mean an adjusted timestamp starting at 6:46:30 or so. This would also mean the supposed George truck is at around 7:07:20.
21:24 (7:09:34) George’s Call
28:01 (7:16:11) W11’s Call
28:55 (7:17:06) W18’s Call
31:25 (7:19:36) W18 Saying she hears George say he shot the person, this is George telling Smith that.
34:45 (7:22:56) GSW Is unresponsive
41:32 (7:29:43) Asks for how much time CPR has transpired
42:18 (7:30:29) Confirmed Signal 07
23:30 7:11:40 George says “Shit, he’s running”
7:11:59 (Event Report) Subj now running towards back entrance of complex
7:16:41 (ER#1671) Witness 3 911 Call
29:36 (7:17:46) W3 says “I see a police right now”
29:36 (7:17:46) W18 says “oh my god I see the person right now. I see him like walking.”
29:42 (7:17:52) W18 says “There’s a man coming out, there’s people coming out with flashlights.”
29:49 (7:17:59) W18 says “There’s a man walking out with a flashlight right now.”
30:01 (7:18:11) W18 says “The man is up right now. Someone’s coming over.”
30:09 (7:18:19) W5 says “Now there’s people coming with flashlights.”
7:19:43 (Event Report) 1 At Gunpoint
7:19:51 W3 Says “And the guy, the guy on top had a white T-Shirt.”
7:20:06 Dispatcher says “Do you see what kind of pants?”
7:20:08 W3 says “No”
7:20:20 (Event Report) Complainant ADVD “Said guy was on top wearing a whitshirt/unknown pants”
7:21:18 (Event Report) 1 Secure & 1 Down w/GSW
34:45 (7:23:01) (Event Report) GSW is unresponsive
35:35 (7:23:52) (Event Report/Radio Transmission) Chest wound/Unresp male/Starting CPR Per SO2023
42:18 (7:30:34) (Event Report/Radio Transmission) Confirmed Signal 07
7:31:00 Metadata George photo in police car
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It appears to me the vehicle at 7:08 is pulling away from the front of the clubhouse.
From the “Taking the Taaffe Tour at Twin Lakes” video it appears the last light is a reflection off the picture frame but they look to have been moved down a bit between videos.
Here are what appears to be nine other vehicles traveling in the same direction that do not illuminate those items:
Here are just some clips of the 7:08 vehicle: