Considering I’ve already expressed much of what I have thought on this issue already at the treehouse I will simply repost some of that here as well. So some of this will be a repeat for you all.
There were seven clips from Crump’s recorder that O’Mara uploaded to his site…
Clip 1 – 2:21
Clip 2 – 5:13
Clip 3 – 10:29
Clip 4 – 15:04
Clip 5 – 15:11
Clip 6 – 15:47
Clip 7 – 17:42
The ABC clip ends at the start of clip 3. Listen from 10:25 onward in the video above for the transition of the combined clips.
As you can see/hear there is no part of the ABC clip on Crumps recorder which was given to the State.
My first concern was why do we not have this ABC clip, or at least part of it, in the discovery that should have come from Crumps recorder. Crump says in his affidavit;
It is clear from 5:51 of my video to 6:25 that Crump is about to record DeeDee.
We hear a beep at 6:25. Is that a beep coming from Crumps recorder as he hits record? I do not think so.
I don’t think the beep @10:27 is his recorder either, that actually sounds like a beep from a fire alarm with a low battery or something like that. Also it happens before Crump says “1,2,3″ so if he started the tape before that we would hear that part on Clip 3 of the discovery but we don’t.
From the manual of Crump’s recorder it talks about beeps. One area is that you can turn the beep on/off for operation, it says: “A beep will sound to indicate that an operation has been accepted or an error has occurred.”
Digital Voice Recorder Sony Model number: ICD-BX112
I have the next Sony model up from that one, which has USB capability(Crumps does not), and it has a beep option as well. When I hit record it will beep. When I hit stop it will beep. When I hit pause during recording it will beep.
The beep on my recorder sounds just like the beeps we hear in the clips from Crumps Recorder.
There are three different tones of beeps on my recorder that I can hear. 1) “an operation has been accepted” such as hitting Play/Record 2) going through the various menu options 3) “an error has occurred” such as hitting record while in play mode will make the recorder beep four times in quick succession and Alarm, the alarm function has many quick succession of four beeps each in a row.
You can hear the beeps from going through the various menu options in this video here from the same model as Crumps recorder.
Here is a video that features the same recorder I have:
Menu beeps @ 1:20 onward REC beep @2:32 onward
Listen to just the ABC clip and you will hear just one beep at the end. It comes just after he says “1,2,3″ and is rather faint. That is Crump pressing record on his device.
Now in the clips from the evidence we also hear beeps and this is why.
Crumps recorder does not have USB capability or a removable media card. So in order to get the sound from it you have to do one of two things. 1) Press play on the device and record the sound coming out of it with a microphone from another device. 2) Place a mini jack into the device and record into some other device.
Number 2 is the preferred method. However the FBI and FDLE both used method 1. Why I don’t know but the result is a lower quality audio.
Now when they used that method they also captured beeps while pressing play on the device. And so that is why you hear a beep in those clips.
Here is clip 3 and notice you can hear the beep at the beginning. Just before that beep there is another subtle sound; that of the agent pressing record on whatever he’s pressing record on, then he presses play on Crumps device resulting in the beep.
So let’s go back to the ABC clip. Remember at 5:51 of my video to 6:25 it sounds like Crump is about to record DeeDee talking, she begins talking and ends her story at 9:01 then Crump says “Okay, I’ma, I’ma hold for a second”. Crump saying that gives me the impression he was going to stop the recorder at that point.
So it would seem we would have a clip in the discovery that is apx. 2m41s but we don’t. Why?
Well, Crump could say he simply and mistakenly did not hit record on the recorder at that point and that is why we do not have that clip.
I do not hear the beeps that should come from Crumps recorder before or after DeeDee was talking.
So for the particular issue of why that was not on Crumps recorder, Crump is in the clear.
Let’s move on to the second issue.
I want to consider now the two segments before and after DeeDee talks where Crump is doing most of the talking.
It is from those two segments where we may have the other issue of concern. The question is; does within those two clips lay perjury or some other nefarious thing. I don’t know. We have to take them in account when reading the affidavit.
So let’s listen to segment 1
And now consider that in light of this first statement:
Let us do the same for segment 2
Clearly they were speaking. However Crump goes on to elaborate:
I think it could be reasons A and D that may do away with any perjury concern. It seems ambiguous enough to explain away what Crump is doing in those two segments.
But what about some other nefarious thing?
If one listened to the ABC clip out of context it may give one the impression that Crump is telling DeeDee what to say, but is he?
If we listen to segment 1 and listen to what Crump says, it sounds like he’s telling her to say that Trayvon went to the store around six to get some snacks for his little brother. But once we combine the ABC segment with the other clips we can see that before Crump said this DeeDee said it. She says it in clip 2 at 2:52 and 3:19 of the video. So this takes care of segment 1.
In segment 2 Crump wants her to talk about the part where she says she could hear George say “What you doing in here”. He goes on to say he wants her to start from where she said Trayvon said he lost George. Crump also mentions the part where she tells Trayvon to run. On the face of it this seems easy because DeeDee in the same ABC clip just before this told Crump all of this. But there’s problems.
Crump phrases it “What you doing in here” but DeeDee didn’t phrase it that way. She said she heard George say @8:36 “What you talkin about”. She also never said Trayvon lost George. She said Trayvon TRIED to lose George.
Something else strange happens in the second segment at 9:03. Crump says “OK. I’ma, I’ma hold for a second. I just want to ask the part about the alt[I think "altercation"], when you say you heard the other person, [unintelligible], you know, like you told Mr. Tracy and Miss Sybrina there, when you say he loud, it was like, “What you doing in here,” and stuff…”
Told Tracy and Sybrina? How could that be? Let’s step back a moment.
Crump says in his affidavidt:
So the night before the interview with DeeDee is the first time Crump learned of DeeDee talking to Trayvon.
In Crumps presser on March 20, 2012, announcing DeeDee to the world, he said:
Mr. Martin on Sunday evening was working with his cell phone account trying to figure out Trayvon’s password and he looked on it and he saw who the last person was that Trayvon Martin talked to while he was alive. He called me late Sunday night and told me that he had called the young lady and he told me and I was just utterly shocked when he told me the time that they had talked. They had talked all day…
So somewhere in between late Sunday night and before the interview the next day DeeDee told Tracy and Sybrina the story of what she heard?
Sybrina stated to investigators:
So late sunday evening Tracy called and talked to DeeDee who Told Tracy the story then Sybrina also called DeeDee and DeeDee told her the story as well then they do the phone interview the next day but somewhere Crump hears the DeeDee story from Tracy and Sybrina before the interview.
Oh, but there’s a problem. Tracy said in his statements to investigators(page 40 SAA):
Whoops, that’s obviously not true.
So going back and listening to the entire interview that we currently have it makes more sense now why Crump is saying some of the things he says. It’s because he has heard the story before though perhaps not from DeeDee rather Tracy and Sybrina.
And if we go back now to segment 2 we can see why Crump phrases DeeDee’s words of “What you talkin about” into “What you doing in here” because that’s what Crump probably heard from Tracy and Sybrina. Notice immediately after Crump says that to DeeDee she changes what she said earlier to “What you doing around here”. Her story will also morph into Crumps words to express that Trayvon had lost George as opposed to what DeeDee said that Trayvon tried to lose him. But of course Trayvon couldn’t because of George’s superman like powers.